And I can remember back when I started a Business Alliance back in 2013, I got a call from Natalie who had just been launched into the president role in Seattle, Washington, the Columbia Tower. And she called me and she said, I need you to come in here. She goes, I need your help. And at the time I was gonna take over her broker group, her broker business in Seattle. And I've known her for over 20 years. She's been my mentor, my friend and she called me and I said, OK. All right, I'm gonna commute into Seattle and we're gonna do this. And it was, I, I had so much faith in her so her and I would ride together in the car. She'd pick me up at five and our rides in, we talk and talk business and we just learned a lot from each other and what we wanted with this business because it was a company of probably 400 plus brokers. We didn't even know who were our active brokers were. I think if I call them, who's this? They, they may, I haven't been with, I'm not doing this anymore. I'm not a broker anymore.